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This is written by Tulsidas Ji,
"Dhol, Ganwar, Shudra, Pashu, Naari, ye sab tadan ke adhikaari",
In which context it was written, and what do you think about this?

Asked by shalini dwivedi, 21 Aug '07 10:01 am
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Tulsidas Ji, "Dhol, Ganwar, Shudra, Pashu, Naari, ye sab tadan ke adhikaari", In which context it was written, and what do you

[A-1] : Modern Outlook and Logical Explaination :
>The meaning we have derived over is not right & U r not looking into the context where it was said.
Here ""Tadan"" does not mean beating but it means that these should not be let looses & should be put under & it means that Dhol (musical instrument), Ganwar (fool), Shudra (a person who's indulged in bad deeds not necessarily lower in caste), Pashu (animal) & Naari (woman).. all these are need to b given some disciplined kind of treatment in order to make/sound them beautiful/good, like when u stroke the Dhol,it gives a good sound & the same has been said by famous Nirgun Saint Kabeer as well...
"Guru kumhaar Shish kumbh hai, .. Antar haath sahaar de, baahar maare chot.."
means "a Guru (master) is like a man who makes earthern pots (kumhaar) & Shishya (pupil/disciple) is like an earthen pot which needs ...more
Answered by bharat kumar, 22 Aug '07 05:18 pm

 
  
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It shows the openness of opinion of people with candidness in India. It is sometimes not helpful to be politically correct. Other people who answered here are making excuses and trying to spin what has been said by one of the greats of all time. Look, it is well known in other religions also the woman is very difficult to get salvation. Only way a woman can get salvation is by being a complete devotee to her husband, becasue it was recognised that women in general are not very bright and more detail oriented. They can not be very analytical. They can be a great devotee. If not then beat them up and rein them in. They are good for only sex and have children and serve. That is what Tullsidas ji is saying. If a woman is a devotee she is better than a man and close to God. Please note that this explanation has nothing to do with what I think.
Answered by Yoyo Muni, 13 Jun '10 07:47 am

 
  
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This has been one of the most abused stanza of Ram Charit Manas. The line is spoken by Ocean who appears in form of a Brahmin in front of Lord Ram. I don't think it reflects views of either Tulsidasji or Lord Ram. It was a dialogue. When Ravan calls Ram sath etc we don't blame it on Tulsidasji. It only reflects mentality of Ocean and not the narrator or the hero of the epic.
Answered by Mihir Shah, 27 Sep '10 08:26 pm

 
  
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Agrree with bharat
Answered by sumati gayki, 15 Sep '09 02:12 pm

 
  
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This Doha of Tulsidas is written in "Sunderkand" Of "Ramcharit manas", it was written when Shri Ram did the Tapasya to pray the Sea to give path and Sea didn't showed up at all. Tulsidas wrote this doha to explain that, "Those who are evil by mind who are below then human are not worthy of praying or soft words they should be taught a lesson"

But the meaning of the words are controversial because Tulsidas is counting; "Women and Lower caste as Animal here". This only shows the mentality of the people of India at that Time it is not welcomed now.
You know a beautiful Poetry written by Ramdhari Singh Dinkar in his "Kurukshetra" says this scene with a difference

TEEN DIWAS TAK PANTH MANGATE RAGHUPATI SINDHU KINARE
BAITHE RAHE GUNATE CHHAND ANUNAY KE PYAREE
UTTAR ME BHI EK NAAD JAB UTHA NAHI SAGAR SE
UTHI DHADHAK TEJ PAURUSH KI RAM KE SHAR SE
...more
Answered by Gaurav vyas, 21 Aug '07 03:30 pm

 
  
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It was written by tulsidas as he want to abuse women, he was annoyed becoz of his wife, so the whole ramayan shows his frustration against women, by abusing all female characters except sita ji in ramayan
Answered by upasana mehra, 21 Aug '07 10:14 am

 
  
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Dhol Ganwar shudra pashu nari, ye sab tadan ke adhikari - A drum, an idiot, a shudra and a woman all need severe beating.
Answered by L KINI, 21 Aug '07 10:06 am

 
  
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